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Proving there is no god

If there was a proof that truly did disprove God's existence, would the theist be able to accept it, given that his presuppositions are in opposition to the non-existence of God? In other words, given that the theist has a presuppositional base that there is a God, in order for him to accept a proof for God's non-existence, he would have to change his presuppositional base. This is not easy to do, and would involve a major paradigm shift in the belief structure of the theist. Therefore, a theist is presuppositionally hostile to any proofs for God's non-existence, and is less likely to be objective about such attempted proofs.

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Mr Deity takes umbridge with the bible

After reading how he is depicted in the bible, Mr Deity decides that the christians (yeah, he knows some jews were also responsible, but they have it hard enough already) need to pay. He smites them with the inability to dance, curses their leaders with bad hair and all sorts of terrible afflictions.

Great one liners include "they do that to kids?". "How about we get the pope to kill a bunch of them [xstains] off, he's good at that".

A handful of comics

The webs are full of fruit!

Just going through my webcomics rss feeds and there was quite a few good ones this week.

Here's a taste

How it happened

WWJND?

By Non-Stamp Collector

Panel Debate

A panel debate featuring William Lane Craig, Christopher Hitchens, Douglas Wilson, Lee Strobel and James Denison, moderated by Stan Guthrie. The topic is "Does the God of Christianity exist, and what difference does it make?"




(Or the link to the video is also here).


There is also an Mp3 of the debate here.

Via Apologia Podcast/Blog (One of the BEST podcasts out there for both theists and atheists),

God is just a theory

This weeks eSkeptic concentrates on '27 ways to honor Charles Darwin' and comprises a list of 27 terrific resources for people wanting to learn more about and be able to defend evolution.

Check it out and order yourself some swag. Their store is just brimming with awesome merchandise. Also, make sure you get a chance to browse around the main site. There's a lot of really good resources there.

This edition of eSkeptic also contains a link to Shermer's "God is Just a theory" editorial, which suggests a mandatory insertion at the beginning of all church services, explaining that the material contained within the service cannot be validated and must be viewed as 'theoretical'

Here's the original:

God is Only a Theory

July 2007

I have given much thought to the creationists’ demand that evolution be stricken from public school science classes, or that it be taught side-by-side with creationism because “evolution is only a theory” and since “no one was there to witness the creation” we cannot say for sure what really happened.

I have come to the conclusion that what’s fair is fair, and that the creationists have a good point. After all, isn’t education all about hearing both sides of an issue? And they are correct, no one was there to witness the creation, so any ideas about who or what caused the creation can only be speculative theories and therefore never provable.

Therefore, I am certain that Ministers, Priests, Rabbis, and religious leaders of all sects will be pleased to read the following disclaimer to their respective congregations every Sunday morning, or before any sermon delivered:

Good morning ladies and gentlemen, God bless and welcome to [fill in the name of your church, temple, mosque, or center of worship here].
This morning we are going to talk about the creation of the universe and the origins of life on Earth. According to the Bible, Genesis 1:1–3: “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”

Now, it is important for us to understand that no one was actually present at the creation so we don’t really know what happened. Genesis 1:1–3 is only a theory, and as such cannot be treated as fact. And it is only fair that I share with you that there are other theories of the creation.

For example, some Sumerians and Babylonians, Gilbert Islanders, Koreans, and Greeks believed that the world was created from the parts of a slain monster; some Zuni Indians, Cook Islanders, and Tahitians have a theory that the world was created by the interaction of primordial parents; and some Japanese, Samoan, Persian, Chinese, and Hindu have a theory that the world was generated from an egg.” And, of course, there is that dogma being foisted upon us by the liberal media and intelligentsia, the theory of evolution.

As for the origins of human life, that is spelled out in Genesis 1:27: “God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” Of course, not only was no one present to witness this act — except for Adam and Eve after they were created — I should point out that this theory has a counter theory in Genesis 2:7, where “the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” In this theory Adam is all alone without a mate, so in Genesis 2:21–22 “the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.”

Since everyone here was blessed by the almighty with a brain that thinks, I will allow you to decide which theory is the correct theory of the creation of humans, Genesis 1 or Genesis 2. Weigh the evidence and decide for yourselves. You be the judge.

Oh, there is one other minor detail. Adam and Eve begat Cain and Abel, and as you all know Cain — as firstborns are wont to do to their laterborn siblings who compete for the limited parental resources — slew him. That left Adam, Eve, and Cain as the only humans on the entire Earth. But in Genesis 4:17 we read that “Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch.” Now, I don’t mean to burden you with more of the liberal media’s fascination with smut and porn, but I think as created beings endowed with intelligence and critical thinking skills blessed to us by the good Lord, it might be reasonable to ask just who it was that Cain “knew.” Unless Adam was himself blessed with both types of reproductive organs, or Cain was capable of parthenogenesis, then we are left with the theory that Cain “knew” his mother. But that’s just a theory, and as we all know, theories are just wild guesses and should not be taken seriously.

Exactly how it happened

Finally, the true story behind The thing that made the things for which there is no known maker and that causes and directs the events that we can't otherwise explain and doesn't need to have been made and is the one thing from which you can ask for things that no human can give and without whom we can't be fully happy and is unlimited by all the laws of physics and never began and will never finish and is invisible but actually everywhere at once and who is so perfect that even if he killed millions of people including babies he'd still be perfect and who could even make a virgin pregnant if he wanted to.



I aways wondered how it happened...

I doubt that!

Apparently science can prove that God exists!

Well, I doubt that, but let's see.



I find Vic Stenger's use of science to disprove the Christian God much more compelling...

God eats out

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Clearing Up Any Confusion

To help clear up any confusion about our position, please take a look at this wonderful website from our dear friend Dave The Happy Singer.






The website is Answers In Reality, a play on the abortion of a website Answers In Genesis.

Then, if you have any further questions at all about the fossil record, you can visit Transitional Fossil, where all your questions are answered.