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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Michael Shermer at the Wesley Centre

Here's some video of Michael Shermer at the Wesley Centre, Sydney during his debate with John Lennox on Saturday.

Enjoy

Part 1


Part 2


Part 3


And Here's a photo set, thanks to John

7 comments:

  1. Excellent, I can catch what I missed! Thanks!

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  2. The MP3 is also up at the Centre for Public Christianity's iTunes podcast site. Don't know if there is a non-iTunes source.

    I don't think I can sit through it again though!

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  3. A debate? Where is the other part? Last time I saw a debate on Gods existence Michael got runned over big time. We reached the conclution that the athius community needed someone else to come forward on their behalf.

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  4. Well done! Michael blew Lennox back to the 2nd century where he belongs.

    Dr.q "Michael got runned over" You clearly have trouble with the english language, can I suggest you have someone else come forward and post your comments. "athius"????? grrrrr

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  5. It's good to see that this was captured on video.

    Though the debate itself was quite poor, Dr. Lennox wasn't a very good opponent.

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  6. We observe in the universe, bottom-up, hierarchially-organized complex systems.

    When linear (template-replicating) molecules appeared in this hierarchy, they imperfectly passed along information for their own type of linear organization. This led to the gradual evolution among these, now-competing, modified complex systems. This is what we identify as the origin of living systems.

    Cooperative organization among these linear molecules led to specialization -- a new hierarchical level of organization

    This pattern is what Michael was alluding to when he talked about within-group, versus between-group morality, at the social-primate level of hierarchical organizational complexity.

    Cooperation/altruism is selected for among components within a particular competing complex system. This cooperation almost always involves specialization. This form of organization creates survival value for that particular hierarchically-organized system.

    Michael described the contrasting competitive sort of morality that applies between groups, where resources are limiting.

    Paul Bredderman

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  7. The evidence dosent support a God of the Bible, when the bible itself appears to be based on all evidence that it is adoption of Assryo-Babyloian and Egyptian pagan religions.
    Even the Jesus figure has its roots in such demi-god such as Mithras and Prometheous. I always find it interesting to see how defensive religious groups respond to a simple review of facts.

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